Camellia
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Thanks from Pocket
      #2444550 - 08/19/05 05:15 AM

Before it's too late, let me thank all of you who have helped our Wrath experience a fun one.

BnI and DO: Atilla, Mal, Rake, Menasch to name a few. We have had much fun with you both as allies and foes.

Dissent and Corrupted: We have had numerous fun fights against you at mines and elsewhere. Special thanks to JGC and KissMe.

CR: I am sorry we grossly outnumbered you at the CR bane, but after all that has been one of the most memorable moments for us on Wrath.

Malice, DC, CS, HD, LB, TW, etc.: We have also enjoyed occasional fights with all of you.

OO: I am sorry that we have to leave Wrath before we have a chance to know each other better. Surely we have had fun on group raids and at occasional mine fights together. And of course the most memorable one for us has been the Pocket bane.

DG and CCC: It has always been great fun to fight against you.

KR: I have always disliked the nationalism you bring into this game. However, we have enjoyed the fights themselves we've had with you.

and personally

Anthrage: I have enjoyed chatting with you very much. I am a fan of the way you play this game; you know what I mean.

KickIT: Thank you. You've always encouraged me by having unbiased (not-so-biased) view toward Asian players.

Selena: Thank you also for... making fun of me.


Now, depending on the results of the bane WoO discussions, we may have no place to go to.

With the current population of 100-150 during Pac-Rim prime time (and fewer during NA prime time I guess), staying on Wrath isn't really an option for anybody.

I have thought it's the zerg mentality of the majority of Asian people that most of you NA players hate. I mean like calling in as many allies as possible to the degree where there are no risks at all, using anything for that purpose, nationalism for instance, and setting bane time not to the one most convenient to them but to the one most inconvenient to the opponents. I hate that kind of mentality as much as many NA players do, and that's the main reason why we chose to move to Wrath rather than to migrate to Redemption.

On the other hand I have thought the time zone issue could be resolved by some thinking and good communication. But I was wrong after all. You will need a bane WoO to protect yourselves from stupidity like dropping a bane stone on a JP city on Monday. I have tried my best to avoid such situations, but I can't help it any further. I am really tired now. I assume the bane WoO will be implemented to all the regular (read NA) servers, and I have no intention to play on a server where I can't fight to defend my own town.

So I keep watching how the Bane WoO thread goes, but this could well be my goodbye post to SB. In that case, thank you all again for the great fun I have had on Entropy and on Wrath.

Camellia


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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2444570 - 08/19/05 05:26 AM

Well, you can do what everyone else does... Join a nation that has people from all areas of the world. We have players from Europe and Australia in our guild, as well as late night players, so there is pretty much always someone to play with, day and night.

That is the option available to Pac-rim guilds once the Bane WoO's go into place. Join a nation with others, like you did on Wrath. Or, if you're like KR and CN and don't mingle with those outside your nationality, adapt, or suffer the consequences of your own decisions.

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2444607 - 08/19/05 05:41 AM

It will be a shame to see any of the Japanese Guilds go due to Bane Woo. The Japanese Guilds have always been some of the finest to fight against or with, since they do not bring RL Politics into the game and are always up for a good fight

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2444613 - 08/19/05 05:44 AM

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It will be a shame to see any of the Japanese Guilds go due to Bane Woo. The Japanese Guilds have always been some of the finest to fight against or with, since they do not bring RL Politics into the game and are always up for a good fight




i personally dont want to see any of the guilds go. its unfortunate it had to come to this. most of the anger was not towards the Pac Rim players themselves. of course they should be able to defend their city at their time. the problem comes in with NA guilds who are allied with them that use their prime time to defend their city. That is where the anger comes in. i didnt have any problem coming to the pocket bane because i knew they were Japanese. I did have a problem going to the KGB bane because they are NA

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2444634 - 08/19/05 05:56 AM

Cameilla,

It has been a pleasure to know you on Entropy & Wrath and to have you as part of our nation on Wrath. You know that Pocket players are more than welcome in the nation on the Lore server even if Pocket itself doesn't make an appearance. I really wish they could make it so that the game works for all different time zones but at the same time I understand that its a formidable & complex problem.

I wouldn't write off every possibility yet. I don't see why the weekends shouldn't be more liberal but who knows...

-En

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2444669 - 08/19/05 06:10 AM

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KickIT: Thank you. You've always encouraged me by having unbiased (not-so-biased) view toward Asian players.





RAWR n stuff.

I actually had no idea how much i was actually unbiased until Kishijo said, "hey, the Asian Advocate position is open to anyone that can fill it better, want the job?". Holy crap.

It's really easy to pick a side on this issue, since i'm in NA. But i've also understood that the majority of sincere guilds had to put up with us as much as we had to put up with them. Somewhere in the world, it's always a 6 a.m. bane.

However, FC/DoA and Dokdo, aka China (CN) and Korea (KR) who decide to make this game a racist/nationalist agenda, are ruining it for others who don't play in such manners. I freakin hate alot of people in this game, and it's because of who they are in this game. I don't hate them because they're dwarves, nor do i hate them because of their religion, race, nationality or gender.

Unfortunately, CN and KR have stood out as the worst sportsmanship possible players. Sure, we could blame Huckeleberry and AustinP for them being NA's and hiding under CN. We could blame Manshoon for hiding under KR. Truth be told, if it wasn't for the carebear actions of KR and CN, the position wouldn't be there to present itself to opportunists such as Huck and Manjuice.

To CN and KR: KGB, BnI, and other carebear guilds are the massive carebear zerg police. We have enough of those, and at least they aren't being racist about it. Learn english and understand why those tools are running to you.

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2444702 - 08/19/05 06:23 AM

Quote:

Well, you can do what everyone else does... Join a nation that has people from all areas of the world. We have players from Europe and Australia in our guild, as well as late night players, so there is pretty much always someone to play with, day and night.

That is the option available to Pac-rim guilds once the Bane WoO's go into place. Join a nation with others, like you did on Wrath. Or, if you're like KR and CN and don't mingle with those outside your nationality, adapt, or suffer the consequences of your own decisions.




Shadivak,

Thanks for the suggestion. After bane WoO is implemented, joining an NA guild individually would be the only option; yes, I have thought about it. But I don't feel I should do it.

You may know that I have a personal web site with SB diary/journal that many Japanese SB players read every day. In April last year, En-Tranz aborted support for Mac users, and we were forced a choice between migrating to Ubi and quitting SB altogether. I said to my 300 readers "Let's go to Ubi". I feel the responsibility for migrating 300 JP players to Ubi. My SB diary still has about 400 hits per day. I know some people check it multiple times a day, so the real number should be perhaps 100-200. Those people don't speak out on the ubi boards, because of the language barrier. And I am representing them on the ubi boards. I have no difficulty myself joining an NA guild as an individual, but most of JP players do. And they have been my supporters.

So the only choice left to me is to tell my readers "Let's cancel UBI accounts" when bane WoO is implemented. We have been paying the same amount for accounts as NA players and if this game is so unfair to JP players, we shouldn't continue playing the game.

Camellia


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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2444736 - 08/19/05 06:54 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Well, you can do what everyone else does... Join a nation that has people from all areas of the world. We have players from Europe and Australia in our guild, as well as late night players, so there is pretty much always someone to play with, day and night.

That is the option available to Pac-rim guilds once the Bane WoO's go into place. Join a nation with others, like you did on Wrath. Or, if you're like KR and CN and don't mingle with those outside your nationality, adapt, or suffer the consequences of your own decisions.




Shadivak,

Thanks for the suggestion. After bane WoO is implemented, joining an NA guild individually would be the only option; yes, I have thought about it. But I don't feel I should do it.

You may know that I have a personal web site with SB diary/journal that many Japanese SB players read every day. In April last year, En-Tranz aborted support for Mac users, and we were forced a choice between migrating to Ubi and quitting SB altogether. I said to my 300 readers "Let's go to Ubi". I feel the responsibility for migrating 300 JP players to Ubi. My SB diary still has about 400 hits per day. I know some people check it multiple times a day, so the real number should be perhaps 100-200. Those people don't speak out on the ubi boards, because of the language barrier. And I am representing them on the ubi boards. I have no difficulty myself joining an NA guild as an individual, but most of JP players do. And they have been my supporters.

So the only choice left to me is to tell my readers "Let's cancel UBI accounts" when bane WoO is implemented. We have been paying the same amount for accounts as NA players and if this game is so unfair to JP players, we shouldn't continue playing the game.

Camellia





I just don't believe that. On Corruption, I played with the players from En Tranz. I played with KAOS, Rasetsu, TC and all of the other major Japanese guilds that came here from ET servers(outside of CN and KR). You know what our nation consisted of? About half NA/Euro players, and about half JP players. They had no problems playing like this, and neither did we. I don't buy the idea that all of the Japanese players will quit the game because of NA WoO's, because they have played with NA players before, and will do so again.

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2444763 - 08/19/05 07:26 AM

Quote:

Well, you can do what everyone else does... Join a nation that has people from all areas of the world. We have players from Europe and Australia in our guild, as well as late night players, so there is pretty much always someone to play with, day and night.

That is the option available to Pac-rim guilds once the Bane WoO's go into place. Join a nation with others, like you did on Wrath. Or, if you're like KR and CN and don't mingle with those outside your nationality, adapt, or suffer the consequences of your own decisions.




You are a idiot,why should we have to play HOW you say we should?
Why because we smashed you on this server so much you had to go run and cry to devs,that is no better then reporting someone for pve explioting IMO.
You are children,you started the war we just finished it and you cannot handle the fact.

I know how cam feels as i wont be being made to play how YOU want us to play,you lost you should have handled it but being the children you are you cried to MOMA.

FUKING JOKES.

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2444764 - 08/19/05 07:27 AM

Also you think you can dictate to people shadicrap i beg to differ.
Have a look at wrath ZK stands TOSSER.

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2444769 - 08/19/05 07:29 AM

Quote:

I just don't believe that. On Corruption, I played with the players from En Tranz. I played with KAOS, Rasetsu, TC and all of the other major Japanese guilds that came here from ET servers(outside of CN and KR). You know what our nation consisted of? About half NA/Euro players, and about half JP players. They had no problems playing like this, and neither did we. I don't buy the idea that all of the Japanese players will quit the game because of NA WoO's, because they have played with NA players before, and will do so again.




Shadivak,

No, it doesn't work like you say. The problem boils down to this:

Shadowbane is ultimately a siege warfare game. If all the sieges are limited to the WoO of 5AM to 5PM (this is the current mine WoO in Japan time) and if the enemy can force your defending bane to happen on a weekday when no decent players can be on, there is no point playing the game.

It's bane WoO which makes a big difference, and that's what NA players are winning from ubi.

Camellia

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2444790 - 08/19/05 07:41 AM

Manshoon,

I understand your conditional reflex of having to post as soon as you see letters "Shadivak", but please make your own thread and do it there this time. This could be my last thread at UBI.

Regards,
Camellia


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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2444792 - 08/19/05 07:42 AM

Sorry CAM.
This is crap though mate.

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2444797 - 08/19/05 07:45 AM

Camellia when the bane WOO was first brought up by the peanut gallery there wasnt many of us posting against it,its good to see you finally have i just wish the koreans & chinese new what was happening as there opinions would help.
Its going to affect them just as bad i bet they dont even know this is happening

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2444814 - 08/19/05 07:58 AM

Yeah Cya pocket.
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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2444818 - 08/19/05 08:07 AM

I find it incredibly hard to believe that they have absolutely NO idea that they are considering a bane WoO.

Reason being, during that last trainer city bane that I attended and thus far on Lore Test, the Asian (for lack of a better defining term) players seemed quite able to respond in global chat with their respective languages when some anti-Asian remarks were made. Sure, it could be coincidence, but when they have spammed chat after anti-Asian remarks, logic dictates that they have atleast some semblance of what is going on.

Sorry Manny, as much as i'd like to believe that they're completely oblivious, I just can't possibly do it.

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2444826 - 08/19/05 08:11 AM

Now, to Camellia:

Sorry to see you go, always enjoyed reading your posts, sadly too few of them to read. You always brought a good sense of logic and reason and represented the Asian community with dignity and grace and It was appreciated.

I hope that you stay but wish you the best of luck otherwise.

- Protonix

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2444832 - 08/19/05 08:17 AM

Pocket, VD (Entropy), Airzone, Force were about the only admirable PR guilds I have seen. and I hope something can be done to keep guilds like you.

Camellia we played on Entropy and now Wrath together, why is it the PR time zone folks couldn't just stay on Entropy? I mean it was made the "Asia" time zone server...

I want to thank you for always coming to boards and intelligently giving us your perspective. I personally hope you continue to play SB.


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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2444861 - 08/19/05 08:47 AM

Quote:

<Matt-lolli> anyone awake
* SilentX has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
<Matt-lolli> come on someone respond
<Matt-lolli> if anyone reads this, on the pocket thread
<zie|TT> suicide
<Matt-lolli> SOMEONE PLZ JUST POST "Pocket sucks."
<Matt-lolli> PLEASE
<zie|TT> pocket is kewl
<Matt-lolli> no [censored] that
<Matt-lolli> say they suck




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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2444871 - 08/19/05 08:54 AM

Quote:

Camellia we played on Entropy and now Wrath together, why is it the PR time zone folks couldn't just stay on Entropy? I mean it was made the "Asia" time zone server...



It was like 8 months (?) after the server had been opened, UBI suddenly named it the official Asian server, then opened new servers, Wrath and Redemption. Are you saying we should have stayed on the old server when other people are enjoying the new servers? You can understand how stupid that idea was if you switch the role of Entropy and Wrath. Imagine UBI put up the new server Wrath and named it the official Pac-Rim server while they told you to stay on Entropy because Entropy had the mine WoO tuned for NA. See?

If UBI decided to junk Entropy and put up two new servers, Wrath for NA/Euro and Entropy2 for Pac-Rim at that time, the result could have been very different imo.

Camellia


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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2444878 - 08/19/05 09:01 AM

Quote:

Quote:

<Matt-lolli> anyone awake
* SilentX has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
<Matt-lolli> come on someone respond
<Matt-lolli> if anyone reads this, on the pocket thread
<zie|TT> suicide
<Matt-lolli> SOMEONE PLZ JUST POST "Pocket sucks."
<Matt-lolli> PLEASE
<zie|TT> pocket is kewl
<Matt-lolli> no [censored] that
<Matt-lolli> say they suck







Pocket sucks.

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2444881 - 08/19/05 09:04 AM

Camilla,

Its almost 100% that they will have/make at least one of the servers "international" with no bane WoO's.. why not just play SB on there?

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2444887 - 08/19/05 09:11 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Camellia we played on Entropy and now Wrath together, why is it the PR time zone folks couldn't just stay on Entropy? I mean it was made the "Asia" time zone server...



It was like 8 months (?) after the server had been opened, UBI suddenly named it the official Asian server, then opened new servers, Wrath and Redemption. Are you saying we should have stayed on the old server when other people are enjoying the new servers? You can understand how stupid that idea was if you switch the role of Entropy and Wrath. Imagine UBI put up the new server Wrath and named it the official Pac-Rim server while they told you to stay on Entropy because Entropy had the mine WoO tuned for NA. See?

If UBI decided to junk Entropy and put up two new servers, Wrath for NA/Euro and Entropy2 for Pac-Rim at that time, the result could have been very different imo.

Camellia





I don't think it was that stupid, afterall the PR folks had their own server, why move with the NA playerbase after what happened on Entropy only to complain here when we want WoO's again?

Anyways I am not blaiming you. I guess UBI could have opened up a new Asian server, but your timezone had a server and chose not to play on it.

Honestly, I think if they had switched the roles of Entropy and Wrath, Entropy would still be alive today...IF the PR folks had went to Wrath I guess we will never know.


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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2444899 - 08/19/05 09:34 AM

Quote:

Camilla,

Its almost 100% that they will have/make at least one of the servers "international" with no bane WoO's.. why not just play SB on there?




It depends on how they implement the international server, of course. But if CN and/or KR will play there with the same mentality as they have had, I wouldn't bother trying to play there. I would rather put up with occasional 6am banes than I would with those nationalism/play styles.

Camellia

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2444947 - 08/19/05 10:42 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Camilla,

Its almost 100% that they will have/make at least one of the servers "international" with no bane WoO's.. why not just play SB on there?




It depends on how they implement the international server, of course. But if CN and/or KR will play there with the same mentality as they have had, I wouldn't bother trying to play there. I would rather put up with occasional 6am banes than I would with those nationalism/play styles.

Camellia




lol, how interesting.

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2444987 - 08/19/05 11:32 AM

Quote:

Well, you can do what everyone else does... Join a nation that has people from all areas of the world. We have players from Europe and Australia in our guild, as well as late night players, so there is pretty much always someone to play with, day and night.

That is the option available to Pac-rim guilds once the Bane WoO's go into place. Join a nation with others, like you did on Wrath. Or, if you're like KR and CN and don't mingle with those outside your nationality, adapt, or suffer the consequences of your own decisions.



Did you lose your 5k post account Shad?

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2444988 - 08/19/05 11:33 AM

not interesting, it's [censored] stupid. camelia and others have to suffer because of their imperialistic grandfathers. their grandfathers raped CN and KR's grandmothers. It's not like Pocket is in the middle of Nanking rippin panties.

CN and KR are the most immature players i've found in shadowbane. They bring shame to their country and their people.

anywho, manshoon is still an idiot. you haven't owned dick on this server. You've hidden behind BnI, behind KGB, and behind KR. You're a fool. You can sit and talk smack about owning 'us', but you were a struggling moron in Shadow Syndicate while we were wiping the floor with your merry band of noobs.

STFU iraqi minister of defense.

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2444993 - 08/19/05 11:35 AM

Quote:

not interesting, it's [censored] stupid. camelia and others have to suffer because of their imperialistic grandfathers. their grandfathers raped CN and KR's grandmothers. It's not like Pocket is in the middle of Nanking rippin panties.

CN and KR are the most immature players i've found in shadowbane. They bring shame to their country and their people.

anywho, manshoon is still an idiot. you haven't owned dick on this server. You've hidden behind BnI, behind KGB, and behind KR. You're a fool. You can sit and talk smack about owning 'us', but you were a struggling moron in Shadow Syndicate while we were wiping the floor with your merry band of noobs.

STFU iraqi minister of defense.




Umm who were you again?
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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2445014 - 08/19/05 11:55 AM

Cam,

Hope you're not leaving Shadowbane at all and i can make fun of you on upcoming Vindication server I just didn't get enough of it




P.S.: Awwwww that was the most kawaii "Good Bye" thread i've ever seen !! =^_^=

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2445017 - 08/19/05 12:06 PM

Agreed, don't leave Cam. Sub to one of our nations..

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2445188 - 08/19/05 03:17 PM

I am willing to bet any of the good Wrath nations(KGB/ZK not included) would probally be glad to have you with them.

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2445231 - 08/19/05 04:09 PM

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Well, you can do what everyone else does... Join a nation that has people from all areas of the world. We have players from Europe and Australia in our guild, as well as late night players, so there is pretty much always someone to play with, day and night.

That is the option available to Pac-rim guilds once the Bane WoO's go into place. Join a nation with others, like you did on Wrath. Or, if you're like KR and CN and don't mingle with those outside your nationality, adapt, or suffer the consequences of your own decisions.



Did you lose your 5k post account Shad?




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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2445235 - 08/19/05 04:21 PM

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I am willing to bet any of the good Wrath nations(KGB/ZK not included) would probally be glad to have you with them.




Vyrus,

I have made lots of friends here, and I would be confortable in several NA guilds/nations, true. But if I choose to play on an NA server under the bane WoO rule, I will miss most (if not all) of the banes and mine fights due to work. I've already missed most of the mine fights on Wrath because of the mine WoO, and if I have to miss most sieges Shadowbane isn't Shadowbane anymore. So the choice is between playing on an NA server without banes and mines, and playing on a supposedly put-up Pac-Rim server with CN and KR with insane nationalistic stupidity. My choice would be to quit SB altogether. Thus, my first post.

Camellia


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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2445296 - 08/19/05 06:23 PM

Gauis, Chikensoup, Enlil, KickIT, Judge, Proto, Selena, Magevro,

Thank you every one of you for warm words. I am proud to have been playing with/against you on Wrath, as well as board warrioring with you.

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2445416 - 08/19/05 10:10 PM

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not interesting, it's [censored] stupid. camelia and others have to suffer because of their imperialistic grandfathers. their grandfathers raped CN and KR's grandmothers. It's not like Pocket is in the middle of Nanking rippin panties.

CN and KR are the most immature players i've found in shadowbane. They bring shame to their country and their people.

anywho, manshoon is still an idiot. you haven't owned dick on this server. You've hidden behind BnI, behind KGB, and behind KR. You're a fool. You can sit and talk smack about owning 'us', but you were a struggling moron in Shadow Syndicate while we were wiping the floor with your merry band of noobs.

STFU iraqi minister of defense.




Umm who were you again?
I cant remember people that quit after achieving nothing.





If that's your argument, then you must have problems remembering who you are every time you login.

Except you still paid 12.95 to be a nobody, AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2445482 - 08/19/05 11:26 PM

Manshoon is like the Pauly Shore of Shadowbane.

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2445599 - 08/20/05 01:21 AM

Kickit, have my babies.

good zing shutup.

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2445746 - 08/20/05 03:03 AM

Camellia, the times I've enjoyed with you and your guild on Wrath are some of the best and most memorable I've had. Both fighting along side you and against you were enlightening experiences. the amount of intelligence, respect, and dignity that all of you displayed no matter what the circumstances impressed me time and time again.

Whether you are able to attend banes or not, you and the rest of your guild are invited to join us on the lore server. Your presence would be a welcome addition to which ever nation you may decide to join.

/bow

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2445753 - 08/20/05 03:06 AM

Kickit and I are the "Brett The Hitman Hart/Sean Micheals" tag team ownage of Forumbane.

Everyone say "Good Post, Skorp"! Hurry

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2445767 - 08/20/05 03:15 AM

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Join a nation that has people from all areas of the world




Shad is right. Join a nation that have players from all parts of the world really makes it a little more fun. You are able to login and see that someone is always online because of the different time zones also you get to know other people from other parts of the world.

"The english langauge issue"
Well let me tell all of you who think it's not as fun cause your english might not bee the best or you are a little shy when speaking English.
In Teamspeak I have yet to experince any of the guys in TS being rude or not respecting my opinion cause English is not my first langusge. Even those who are very shy about speaking English still get to say what they want. The American's, The Australians and the English people are very patince and understanding when it come to it.

Well just a follow up on Shad's post anyway cause I know the the language barrier is a problem too some people.



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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2445784 - 08/20/05 03:19 AM

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Join a nation that has people from all areas of the world




Shad is right. Join a nation that have players from all parts of the world really makes it a little more fun. You are able to login and see that someone is always online because of the different time zones also you get to know other people from other parts of the world.

"The english langauge issue"
Well let me tell all of you who think it's not as fun cause your english might not bee the best or you are a little shy when speaking English.
In Teamspeak I have yet to experince any of the guys in TS being rude or not respecting my opinion cause English is not my first langusge. Even those who are very shy about speaking English still get to say what they want. The American's, The Australians and the English people are very patince and understanding when it come to it.

Well just a follow up on Shad's post anyway cause I know the the language barrier is a problem too some people.






Good post Sleip.

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      #2446220 - 08/20/05 07:42 AM

Jack(CaoCao/Arkle) was my favorite asian to listen to in vent. There's nothing like hearing someone speak Mandarin chinese w/ a british accent...

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2446239 - 08/20/05 07:53 AM

We have different cultures in our guild and in our nation on two servers we had Air Zone as a sub. Only the GL spoke english, which made things difficult, but our attempt at coordination was there.

The nations that will be formidable are those that can operate 24/7. Could you imagine having 3 full groups around the clock that coordinate and communicate?

I've never seen one, and that would truly be the greatest guild in shadowbane history.







skorp, which one am i?

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2446257 - 08/20/05 08:07 AM

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We have different cultures in our guild and in our nation on two servers we had Air Zone as a sub. Only the GL spoke english, which made things difficult, but our attempt at coordination was there.

The nations that will be formidable are those that can operate 24/7. Could you imagine having 3 full groups around the clock that coordinate and communicate?

I've never seen one, and that would truly be the greatest guild in shadowbane history.







skorp, which one am i?




That was pretty much AoD/SotA on Corruption.

2-3 groups at all hours of the day. Very fun, to say the least.

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2446290 - 08/20/05 08:33 AM

One of the oldest asian guilds on entropy, Factus Bushido, was a good MQ (my nation, for you non entro folks) sub untill the very end. They where a Japanese guild btw.

Oh we also had another asian sub that was with us untill the end, Chaos Sanctuary. Hmm, I should share that info with all the folks who think my crusade is race based.

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2446493 - 08/20/05 12:47 PM

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Join a nation that has people from all areas of the world




Shad is right. Join a nation that have players from all parts of the world really makes it a little more fun. You are able to login and see that someone is always online because of the different time zones also you get to know other people from other parts of the world.

"The english langauge issue"
Well let me tell all of you who think it's not as fun cause your english might not bee the best or you are a little shy when speaking English.
In Teamspeak I have yet to experince any of the guys in TS being rude or not respecting my opinion cause English is not my first langusge. Even those who are very shy about speaking English still get to say what they want. The American's, The Australians and the English people are very patince and understanding when it come to it.

Well just a follow up on Shad's post anyway cause I know the the language barrier is a problem too some people.






I really enjoyed this post.

Good to see that maturity and friendship is alive and well outside of /Global channel.

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2446586 - 08/20/05 03:19 PM

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Join a nation that has people from all areas of the world




Shad is right. Join a nation that have players from all parts of the world really makes it a little more fun. You are able to login and see that someone is always online because of the different time zones also you get to know other people from other parts of the world.

"The english langauge issue"
Well let me tell all of you who think it's not as fun cause your english might not bee the best or you are a little shy when speaking English.
In Teamspeak I have yet to experince any of the guys in TS being rude or not respecting my opinion cause English is not my first langusge. Even those who are very shy about speaking English still get to say what they want. The American's, The Australians and the English people are very patince and understanding when it come to it.

Well just a follow up on Shad's post anyway cause I know the the language barrier is a problem too some people.






Sleipner,

That's exactly the kind of things I was hoping to experience when I decided to migrate to Ubi servers in April last year. For me it was my first truly international environment in MMO. And Ubi has met my expectation so far. I have had tremendous fun playing Shadowbane with people with different cultural background on Entropy and on Wrath. Ok, this is the good part.

Now the bad part is, Shadowbane refugees from ET servers also made the potential time zone problem of Shadowbane prominent. This is a tough problem. My hope was that nations were formed of guilds in different time zones, just as you show an expample of. This is a solution which somehow requires a community consensus. In my opinion, Wrath could have been an enjoyable international server if KR just split into several smaller nations/guilds and each teamed with guilds from different time zones. I thought it was possible through communication. But I failed. Perhaps their nationalism is beyond my understanding. Some NA people showed racism and attacked Korean people on the boards, only to help them band together, too.

Bane WoO is a double-edged sword. It is certainly effective for the time zone problems. But it will also kill the fun of this international game. Fun of international game and time zone problems are two faces of the same issue.

Camellia


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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2446638 - 08/20/05 05:07 PM

Cam,

Alittle upset you would mention Attila's name over me considering he was around for 1 month? I was mainly the gl on wrath, thought you'd know that . I am sad to see pocket go, as I was see pocket leave the BnI nation. I guess its ok. Good luck to you in where ever life takes you.
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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2446641 - 08/20/05 05:11 PM

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We have different cultures in our guild and in our nation on two servers we had Air Zone as a sub. Only the GL spoke english, which made things difficult, but our attempt at coordination was there.

The nations that will be formidable are those that can operate 24/7. Could you imagine having 3 full groups around the clock that coordinate and communicate?

I've never seen one, and that would truly be the greatest guild in shadowbane history.







skorp, which one am i?




Some guilds on the first generation SB servers could actually do this, they were big enough. I know when I joined CoS we'd have at least 40 people (active, macro leveling wasn't the thing yet) at any hour of the day. Made getting commanders pretty easy. Unfortunetly we hadn't learned that the play to crush mentality in the end ruined servers, so we ruined it for ourselves.
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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2446659 - 08/20/05 05:56 PM

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Cam,

Alittle upset you would mention Attila's name over me considering he was around for 1 month? I was mainly the gl on wrath, thought you'd know that . I am sad to see pocket go, as I was see pocket leave the BnI nation. I guess its ok. Good luck to you in where ever life takes you.




Judge,

That is just my personal perspective. Who made BnI, who were GL's and who were IC's are all irrelevant here. I liked how Atilla played this game. I loved these stupidly role-playing posts by Atilla. We all loved Atilla's "CHARGE!!!", didn't we? I am sure that entertained not only us, but also our enemies. If we shared a bit more of that sense of humor and service to other people, BnI could have been a little more successful nation imo. Well, I have no regret in having been a part of BnI on Wrath anyhow, tho.

Camellia

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2446683 - 08/20/05 07:51 PM

Hey don't forget HoE!
We have people from all around the world. USA, Russia, Canada, Australia, Sweden, Ukraine, Germany, France, Denmark, Norway, Turkey, Iceland and some individuals i think i forgot.

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      #2447022 - 08/21/05 05:25 AM

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Good post Sleip.




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I really enjoyed this post.

Good to see that maturity and friendship is alive and well outside of /Global channel.





Thanks guys

And Camellia I find it sad to hear that you did not goal to combine a nation of guilds from different time zones.

Let me tell you this. First when Farella (Some might remember him) and I formed Scales of Balance (SoB) on Death we decided that the guild should been with guys from all over the world. This was working already at that time.

We brought SoB with us to Corruption and joined LoC from the very beginning of Corruption server. LoC did also have a lot of players from all over the world. At the end of Corruption server, most of the core LoC players had left for WoW but Unstable, Spids, Magdalene, Rothin and myself stayed. Magdalene who became nationleader at the very end subbed LoC to Dissent who also have players from around the world, and to be honest it was mostly to save us from destruction. (Others is of another oppinion) We didn't have the numbers to survive any attack on out capital. This subject I'm gonna leave for now tho' otherwise I'll have a lot of people on my neck early enough.

Where am I going? Well the deal is this. I would not have been playing this game for the game for very long. Too much time spent for just a game. Too many dead hours just running around.

The fact is that even tho' I have never seen the guys I speak with in TS and hell I prob. never will, but many of them have over the years become good frinds. Good men and sweet girls from all over the world. They speak different all of them depending where they are from. Some you understand good and some you don't. But you learn something new all the time and it is not just game chat. Before you know it you are discussing the world policy and maybe saving the world. (This tho' depends on the numbers of beers each individual have had)

I hope you get to expereince it some day. Otherwise drop by our TS when Lore goes live and listen to the community we have.

Nations full of Real Life Time Zones Players (RLTZP) ROCK.

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2447024 - 08/21/05 05:24 AM

let's just delete timezones.

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2447395 - 08/21/05 02:42 PM

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And Camellia I find it sad to hear that you did not goal to combine a nation of guilds from different time zones.




Sleipner,

You just don't understand what Bane WoO means to me.

I would love to form a nation of guilds from different time zones if there is no bane WoO. In fact we've had great fun while in BnI and in OO on Wrath. And I had been looking forward to another such experience on the Lore server until the bane WoO discussions came in.

I am saying bane WoO would kill all the fun of such multi-time-zone-nation. Imagine that You and I and other people formed a guild on the Lore server. Our guild would run fine as far as banes are not concerned. The problem is that all the banes, whether offensive or defensive, will occur during NA prime time under the new bane WoO rule. While you may still have a decent chance of being able to attend banes, I would have no chance since the bane window is something like 5am-5pm in Japan time, or even narrower as people like TheVoice are insisting on. Our enemy could even force me to defend my town during 5am-5pm on a weekday.

Why in hell, do I have to play a game in such an unfair environment? It is after all my pride which prevents me from having fun in the bane WoO rule.

Thank you for your responses anyway. I have no objection to your opinion. It is a wonderful thing to be able to form a multi-national, multi-cultural, multi-time-zone nation in Shadowbane.

Camellia


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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2447397 - 08/21/05 02:44 PM

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let's just delete timezones.




Proto, I wish I could.

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      #2447482 - 08/21/05 04:46 PM

I think i might be able to. I'll get back to you.

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      #2447494 - 08/21/05 05:03 PM

Proto, did you receive the package?

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      #2447496 - 08/21/05 05:07 PM

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Proto, did you receive the package?




yes my love!!

They were delish.

and by were i mean they're all gone.

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      #2447506 - 08/21/05 05:21 PM

Just wanted to check.

Wasn't sure how long it'd take to get there, was hoping they wouldn't be stale.

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2447633 - 08/21/05 10:17 PM

this is an international game, there's nothing you can really do about the nationalistic fucktards unless pop. limits are made for sieges.

and the current Bane WoO. While it sucks for the handful of asians that still play with honor....it rids us of KR and CN's dirty tactics and support for tools.

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2447867 - 08/22/05 02:59 AM

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And Camellia I find it sad to hear that you did not goal to combine a nation of guilds from different time zones.




Sleipner,

You just don't understand what Bane WoO means to me.

I would love to form a nation of guilds from different time zones if there is no bane WoO. In fact we've had great fun while in BnI and in OO on Wrath. And I had been looking forward to another such experience on the Lore server until the bane WoO discussions came in.

I am saying bane WoO would kill all the fun of such multi-time-zone-nation. Imagine that You and I and other people formed a guild on the Lore server. Our guild would run fine as far as banes are not concerned. The problem is that all the banes, whether offensive or defensive, will occur during NA prime time under the new bane WoO rule. While you may still have a decent chance of being able to attend banes, I would have no chance since the bane window is something like 5am-5pm in Japan time, or even narrower as people like TheVoice are insisting on. Our enemy could even force me to defend my town during 5am-5pm on a weekday.

Why in hell, do I have to play a game in such an unfair environment? It is after all my pride which prevents me from having fun in the bane WoO rule.

Thank you for your responses anyway. I have no objection to your opinion. It is a wonderful thing to be able to form a multi-national, multi-cultural, multi-time-zone nation in Shadowbane.

Camellia





Sure I understand. I live in Denmark myself. I'm always 8 to 10 hours in front of NA. I like to play until the early morning hours tho' and that is NA prime time so it won't hurt me too much.

But I see what you mean. Also I would be missing banes and I would never vote for "only NA bane times". We pay the same amount of dollars as the American's to play and should be able to set bane times for our benifit to put it honest.

BUT. If you are in a multi-international nation you can always be sure that your nation members will show up and defend you city even tho' you are sleeping. That is no excuse to make make a server like that tho'.

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2447916 - 08/22/05 03:58 AM

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Sure I understand. I live in Denmark myself. I'm always 8 to 10 hours in front of NA. I like to play until the early morning hours tho' and that is NA prime time so it won't hurt me too much.

But I see what you mean. Also I would be missing banes and I would never vote for "only NA bane times". We pay the same amount of dollars as the American's to play and should be able to set bane times for our benifit to put it honest.

BUT. If you are in a multi-international nation you can always be sure that your nation members will show up and defend you city even tho' you are sleeping. That is no excuse to make make a server like that tho'.




Sleipner,

Thank you for you understanding.

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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2447920 - 08/22/05 04:00 AM

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Quote:

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And Camellia I find it sad to hear that you did not goal to combine a nation of guilds from different time zones.




Sleipner,

You just don't understand what Bane WoO means to me.

I would love to form a nation of guilds from different time zones if there is no bane WoO. In fact we've had great fun while in BnI and in OO on Wrath. And I had been looking forward to another such experience on the Lore server until the bane WoO discussions came in.

I am saying bane WoO would kill all the fun of such multi-time-zone-nation. Imagine that You and I and other people formed a guild on the Lore server. Our guild would run fine as far as banes are not concerned. The problem is that all the banes, whether offensive or defensive, will occur during NA prime time under the new bane WoO rule. While you may still have a decent chance of being able to attend banes, I would have no chance since the bane window is something like 5am-5pm in Japan time, or even narrower as people like TheVoice are insisting on. Our enemy could even force me to defend my town during 5am-5pm on a weekday.

Why in hell, do I have to play a game in such an unfair environment? It is after all my pride which prevents me from having fun in the bane WoO rule.

Thank you for your responses anyway. I have no objection to your opinion. It is a wonderful thing to be able to form a multi-national, multi-cultural, multi-time-zone nation in Shadowbane.

Camellia





Sure I understand. I live in Denmark myself. I'm always 8 to 10 hours in front of NA. I like to play until the early morning hours tho' and that is NA prime time so it won't hurt me too much.

But I see what you mean. Also I would be missing banes and I would never vote for "only NA bane times". We pay the same amount of dollars as the American's to play and should be able to set bane times for our benifit to put it honest.

BUT. If you are in a multi-international nation you can always be sure that your nation members will show up and defend you city even tho' you are sleeping. That is no excuse to make make a server like that tho'.


hes right, and thats why they wont set bane WoO. KR and CN is probably about 20% of thier income.
Camellia
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Multi-time-zone-nation Bane WoO idea
      #2447930 - 08/22/05 04:07 AM

I posted an idea about implementing bane WoO to encourage formation of multi-time-zone nation in the main Bane WoO thread in the Developer's Corner.
http://ubbforums.ubi.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=sbdevcorner&Number=2447446 http://ubbforums.ubi.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=sbdevcorner&Number=2447866
I would appreciate it if any of you give response to the idea, whether there is a chance for the idea to evelve to a resolotion of time zone problem.

Camellia

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Good bye
      #2449009 - 08/22/05 08:37 PM

I've just cancelled two of my alt accounts. I will probably cancel my main accout soon. My accounts won't expire soon, that is, UBI still gets money while I can't really enjoy playing the game. But it's ok I have already had tremendous fun worth the money.

Have fun on the Lore server. Good bye.

Camellia


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Anthrage
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Re: Good bye
      #2450789 - 08/23/05 11:37 PM

Well, somewhat of a sad thing to see here. I've been so busy with my new job that I haven't kept up on this issue or the events of this server, and it looks like we're losing people that we should definitely not be losing...

Camellia you have my utmost respect as you know. It's funny how mountains of text, words spoken about this or that cannot change what one knows as the result of even a few moments of clear and irrefutable personal experience. In Pocket's case, the wide-ranging admiration and respect you individually and your guild collectively have earned is both very well deserved and a rarity in this game.

It's unfortunate that this issue is pushing you, and people like yourself, away. I have not spoken on this Bane WoW issue much - certainly not of late - and when I have, it was always in opposition to the idea that somehow NA players should be catered to more than other players. The idea that somehow it's okay for NA players to set their mine and bane times to their primetime, while anyone else is chastised for doing so, was always ridiulous for me. Some people do not see the world beyond their own borders, or simply don't care about these other people. That's never been truer than in Shadowbane.

I'm going to see what I can do about encouraging a more moderate solution to this 'problem'. It may be too late for you, and your accounts, but I can't imagine that SB will be served well by cutting all of these people out of the game. Certainly all of the people here who have enjoyed playing with you would have had a lesser experience in your absence.

If you are truly leaving, or even gone, it was a great honor to have known you in this game. If the game does not drive you away and you could be encouraged to stay, should a favorable and enjoyable environment exist within which you may do so, I hope you will consider it. This game needs more people like yourself, not less.

Either way, you have my respect and understanding of your decision. Good luck to you in your efforts...

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Re: Good bye
      #2451086 - 08/24/05 04:05 AM

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The idea that somehow it's okay for NA players to set their mine and bane times to their primetime, while anyone else is chastised for doing so, was always ridiulous for me.




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Re: Good bye
      #2451190 - 08/24/05 05:06 AM

Quote:

I've just cancelled two of my alt accounts. I will probably cancel my main accout soon. My accounts won't expire soon, that is, UBI still gets money while I can't really enjoy playing the game. But it's ok I have already had tremendous fun worth the money.

Have fun on the Lore server. Good bye.

Camellia





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Re: Good bye
      #2451489 - 08/24/05 08:31 AM

Sorry to see you go Cam. You are definitely all class and SB is the less for seeing a player of your caliber leave.
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Re: Thanks from Pocket
      #2451625 - 08/24/05 10:47 AM

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This thread has been moved

Moved-CW




I have no idea why my thread about thanks from Pocket (which is staying on Wrath btw) to all the NA guilds which are leaving Wrath for the Lore server must be classified as "Off-Topic Discussion for topics that don't relate directly to Shadowbane".

You know I am about the only person from the Asian playerbase on Wrath who can post our opinions decently in English. So I have been trying my best to represent our concerns on the UBI boards. Sure some of my last posts contained criticism to UBI about idea of bane WoO, for the game will become vastly unfair to people in our time zone under NA bane WoO rule, and UBI has not shown any compensating idea like a plan of introducing a new server for Pac-Rim playerbase. But, I don't like crying like a baby, so instead I tried to make people notice how wonderful multi-lingual, multi-cultural, multi-time-zone experiences in Shadowbane have been. That's what my thread is about.

But it was such a burden for me to keep posting on the boards on behalf of all the unspoken Asian people alone. You never know each of my posts takes me more than an hour to compose in English. I was really tired. I will be sick if I keep doing it, so I have to be gone. My only relief was the belief that, while voting for the NA bane WoO, the NA community at least understands my point as a valid argument. Now I am really disappointed to know that somebody representing the community classified the thread as something irrelevant to Shadowbane.

I am not only unhappy, but also sad now.

Camellia

PS. Thanks Anthrage. It's kind of too late but I appreciate your words as always. Best regards.

And thank you all for keep posting warm words. Your words are my only cure now.

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